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In a message dated 97-03-20 00:23:47 EST,
owner-quattro-digest@coimbra.ans.net writes:
<< Let me get this straight. You want to buy a TQ and are curious about its
towing capacity. I have a better idea. First get off this mailing list.
Second forget about buying an Audi. (German Driving Machine) Third get a
copy of Billy Bob's Truck Search and buy a friggin pickup. If I see the
words Audi and towing in the same sentence again I cannot be held
responsible
for my cars actions. Don't blame me when you get run over by a light blue
100Q, sometimes these cars just take off.
Mel >>
Actually Mel I know someone with a ' 91 200QW that has a Hoppen chip and
modified wastegate and uses it to tow a light trailer with a couple of
waverunners following close behind. It seems to have no problems at all with
the load. God if that isn't one of the only station wagons I've seen that
can outrun some "sport cars."
Rob
' 86 4KCSQ
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quattro-digest Wednesday, 19 March 1997 Volume 04 : Number
492
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Audi Brokers
Brake Wobble
Re: 4000 Trunk Lift
Undeliverable Message
F/S S6 trans & diffs
Mt. Washington in 4KQ
Dunlop 8000 or D40 M2?
List post quantity on Tuesday p.m.?
Trunk Lift and Rear Door handles
Brazillian Control Arms
Re: towing with a turbo audi?
Undeliverable Message
Re: Mt. Wash in 4kQ??
Re: Bad Pump Diagnosis needed, please
Re: Trunk Lift and Rear Door handles
89 200t codes
OXS Sensors
Noisy lifters cont.
A4 1.8T Center console (not)
Re: towing with a turbo audi? bs reply
Re: towing with a turbo audi? bs reply
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From: Jeff.McMeekin@Corp.Sun.COM (Jeff McMeekin - WWFO Training)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 14:40:42 -0800
Subject: Audi Brokers
My inability to find an Audi in my general part of the
world (California) is leading me to considering dealing
with one of that cadre of fellows that roam the US going
to auctions to buy Audis.
Anyone have experience with either of these two brokers:
Steve Krenzen or Bob Buff - or any others that they've had
luck with buying a car on spec for them? Buff in particular
makes some claims for volume volume volume so I am assuming
there must be some folks out there who have heard of him.
He says he does a lot of business through the Quattro club
magazine.
I'm looking for a '93 100s 5sp with no more that 45k for $15k-$16k.
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From: quk@sievers.com (Phil Payne)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:30:41 GMT
Subject: Brake Wobble
In message <3330CFD5.16E8@netcomuk.co.uk> Chris Payne writes:
> Hi, my Ur-Quattro has severe brake wobble at 60mph and above, the wobble
> reduces the slower you go and under 60 it is minimal.
a) Take it to BR Motorsport in Leamington Spa and insist that _MARTIN_
(accept no substitutes) test drives it.
b) Bring it to the UK Audi quattro Owners Club Annual General Meeting
this coming Sunday at the Hilton Hotel, Warwick, 12:00. More opinions
than you can deal with.
- --
Phil Payne
phil@sievers.com
Committee Member, UK Audi [ur-]quattro Owners Club
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From: Huw Powell <human@nh.ultranet.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 97 17:51:22 -0500
Subject: Re: 4000 Trunk Lift
- -- [ From: Huw Powell * EMC.Ver #3.1a ] --
>I have looked and looked and never found a replacement lift for it. Has
anyone replaced theirs? Where do you get a new one? All of the auto parts
stores around here have a book and it says 5000 and there is never a 4000.
What do I do?
I got new struts for my coupe trunk lid locally through Atlantic Imported
Auto Supply. They are genuine parts, with the little four bullseyes on them
(made in Argentina or something), and were about $40 each.
I *think* Atlantic will do mail order, their phone number is 603-868-1161.
Tell them Huw sent you.
Also try the "real" supply houses in your area. I experienced the "chain"
type reference book/generic strut type silliness, too. Good luck.
Huw Powell
HUMAN Speakers
Sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from science....
http://www.thebook.com/human-speakers
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From: sincatx@airmail.net
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 97 17:17:50 -0600 (CST)
Subject: F/S S6 trans & diffs
Taking real offers on 1995 S6 5speed trans. & diffs. frt&rear.
These have 23k miles on them I have paper work to prove it.
Came out of totaled S6.Will sell separate frt & rear diffs.
Will NOT separate flywheel. Rick sincatx@airmail.net
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From: MICHAEL ZAMIKHOVSKY <mikez755@sprintmail.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 18:39:39 -0800
Subject: Mt. Washington in 4KQ
I don't like to discourage people from motorsports, but I have to tell
you a sad story. I was visiting a friend in his shop to look at newly
built 4KQ converted to turbo engine with a great roll cage, fule cell and
coilover suspention. The engine in this car came from a red Quattro Coupe
that ran Susquehannock Trail Pro-rally in PA four years ago. I belive
that it was first event for this car and its driver. As far as I know the
engine was stock. There was a severe crash and the driver didn't survive.
My friend purchased the engine. I was told by many that this Coupe was
inadequatly prpared. Mt Washington autoroad is much more difficult than
any stage at STPR even in low powered car like 4KQ. All wheel drive gives
inexperienced drivers a false sence of securty. Ultimatly people crash
but at a greater speed. This can be more danderous than it seems. One of
the reasons Audi pulled out of World Rally Championship after Group B was
canceled was because there cars were very uncompetitive do to terrible
understeer, compared to other all wheel drive cars of its time. People
that rally Audi like Bruno, Rui Brasill and Frank Sprongle are very good
at controlling understeer. They alsow know how to create oversteer and
carry it through turns to their advantage. There is much knowledge that
one must aquire to run safe and with success.
Mike Z
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From: shields@tembel.org (Michael Shields)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 19:10:05 -0500
Subject: Dunlop 8000 or D40 M2?
> The prices from Tire Rack are significantly less for the D40M2's but if
tread
> life is proportional with performance as a bonus I'd like to try the
8000's.
They are both graded at 200 for wear; the number is not meaningful
between brands, but within the Dunlop line you can compare them, and
it tells you that they should wear about the same.
> Also since I'm in Canada, has anyone had experience importing from tire
rack?
> Shipping costs to Canada?
It looks like you can just UPS them, follow the link on shipping
costs.
- --
Shields.
['86 Coupe GT]
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From: shields@tembel.org (Michael Shields)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 19:12:23 -0500
Subject: List post quantity on Tuesday p.m.?
> I was just curious as to whether there were more posts than the rough
> number of 60 that I received from approximately 4 to 9 p.m. on Tuesday
> night. My I.A.P.'s mail server was down for a while at some point during
> late afternoon/early evening hours in the Eastern Standard time zone, if
> that matters to anyone. I'm not sure of the effect of my mail server's
> 'out of order' sign, and I will bet I received every single post and
> none of this is needed, but just in case.
coimbra is running sendmail so unless Dan has changed the
configuration from the defaults, it will keep trying to deliver mail
for five days.
Of course you can check with the archives.
Five hours is a lot of downtime for a mail server.
- --
Shields.
['86 Coupe GT]
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From: shields@tembel.org (Michael Shields)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 19:13:35 -0500
Subject: Trunk Lift and Rear Door handles
> Hello all. Ever since I got my car 3 years ago my trunk has had no
> hydraulic lift. You have to hold the trunk up while getting anything out
> of the trunk otherwise it will just fall on you.
The usual sources (Blau, Linda, &c.) have them. Don't ever rely on
being able to find anything at the corner parts store -- Audis really
are furrin cars.
- --
Shields.
['86 Coupe GT]
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From: Jonathan Monetti <jmonetti@us.net>
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 19:27:11 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Brazillian Control Arms
Need an opinion on non-OEM parts.
My mech and I want to gussy up the underpinnings of the Coupe's front end.
New ball joints, tie-rod ends, and we were going to do the control arm
bushings. Well, we looked at the labor for chiselling out the old
bushings, and getting the new ones in, and decided to look to new parts
instead.
Get this: a local Audi dealership wants $234.65 *a piece* for new control
arms w/bushings. Am I insane, or is that a really serious hit?
Another local store has the Brazilian parts, and they are but $40, without
bushings. Bushings are $8, and are a heckuva lot easier to get in than
out.
Has anyone used the Brazilian aftermarket control arms (I assume they are
the later, pressed kind, haven't seen one yet).
How much quality am I sacrificing?
TIA
Jonathan Monetti
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From: Flexx944@aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 19:56:57 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: towing with a turbo audi?
Let me get this straight. You want to buy a TQ and are curious about its
towing capacity. I have a better idea. First get off this mailing list.
Second forget about buying an Audi. (German Driving Machine) Third get a
copy of Billy Bob's Truck Search and buy a friggin pickup. If I see the
words Audi and towing in the same sentence again I cannot be held responsible
for my cars actions. Don't blame me when you get run over by a light blue
100Q, sometimes these cars just take off.
Mel
89 944S
89 100Q
72 Chevelle Convertible (my Bebe)
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From: trishab@interwebb.com (Trisha Blethen)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 20:37:32 -0800
Subject: Re: Mt. Wash in 4kQ??
> What else would be in my class?
It would probably be in class 4 which is against the Mitsu AWD
cars....Elcipse's, Celicas, and Omnis or class 2 ....Corvettes,
Mustangs, VW Golf.....
>
> Its my first hillclimb, so it might be good to do it in a tragically
> underpowered car. Trish had some really good points, and I will heed her
> advice. Maybe I can get some pointers from ray first :)
>
Other points to consider:
Full Nomex -- head to toe,
Helmet SA 85 or newer
Full rollcage
5 point harness
Fire bottle
Track experience: requires some kind of record of accomplishment in
Road Racing, Pro Rally, Hillclimb, or Solo events. (i.e. you must have a
lot of experience doing something so that you have a good workin
knowledge of car control.)
"Mt. Washington is NOT nice....small mistakes or slight panic can be
disasterous." (direct quote from Ray)....."Mt. Washington is not
forgiving, but it is a BLAST!" BTW, looking at the tops of trees when
making a mistake in a turn and getting the tops of those trees inside
your car can be VERY disconcerting......(when you realize you have those
pieces-----at the top) Call for further details......603-228-1254.
So, for more info on driving the hill, call Ray....he'd LOVE to talk to
any of you about it.
Trish
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From: Sdbigelow@aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 20:52:59 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Bad Pump Diagnosis needed, please
Hey, all.
My 84 5ks is acting weird in the braking department, again. Start up after
sitting all day, go to back up, hard pedal. No warning lamp. Let it run for a
while, brakes normal. Pump it a bunch, hard pedal again, and boost as it
settles a bit. Bomb has been replaced in the last 3 months.
Q: How do you differentiate between a sour pump and a bad bomb?
Thanks
Steve Bigelow
Ottawa ON
84 5ks with new A/C programmer motor $101.77! (dealer only)
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From: steveb@falcon.kla.com (Steven Buchholz)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 17:53:32 -0800
Subject: Re: Trunk Lift and Rear Door handles
> > Hello all. Ever since I got my car 3 years ago my trunk has had no
> > hydraulic lift. You have to hold the trunk up while getting anything out
> > of the trunk otherwise it will just fall on you.
>
> The usual sources (Blau, Linda, &c.) have them. Don't ever rely on
> being able to find anything at the corner parts store -- Audis really
> are furrin cars.
Agreed to a point ... it is good to keep one's eyes open. I actually
found a gas pressurized cylinder that looks pretty close in a machine
that KLA builds. I've got it sitting on the shelf at home right now
and since I don't need one I've never taken the time to get a catalog
from them. I'll be that if you took a few measurements you might be
able to come up with a replacement ...
I'll see if I can find the thing tonight and if so I'll post what I find
from the markings on the cylinder ...
Cheers!
Steve Buchholz
s_buchho@kla.com
San Jose, CA (USA)
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From: Rolf Mair <waves@epix.net>
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 21:19:47 -0500 (EST)
Subject: 89 200t codes
I'm not quite sure, but in 89 there was a split in how one checks for the
codes. Even though the relay has a jumper in it, if it is a later (?) 89 you
have to access the codes via the jumpers under the dash.
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
Rolf Mair is: waves@epix.net
Racing Resume for Sponsors/Corvettes for sale/Racing Pix @
http://www.sevenwaves.com
Head Coach and Founder of the Seventh Wave jr. Ski Racing Team @ Doe
Mt.Pa
1994,95,96 East Coast USA SCCA Solo 1 Champion
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From: Rolf Mair <waves@epix.net>
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 21:19:46 -0500 (EST)
Subject: OXS Sensors
Go ahead and use a cheap O2 sensor. You may lose a bit of life with sensors
of lower quality though, but basically they are all very similar internally.
Be warned though, that it must be of the heated variety and if you have to
splice wires be sure to solder them well. Resistance is a major concern
here. of course if you are a performance nut, you'd actually like just a tad
bit of resistance in the wire to fool the pooter into thinking it's seeing a
lower voltage reading therefore richening up the mixture slightly. This is
best compensated at the fuel distr. though. I've said too much already,
actually I didn't say this at all!!
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
Rolf Mair is: waves@epix.net
Racing Resume for Sponsors/Corvettes for sale/Racing Pix @
http://www.sevenwaves.com
Head Coach and Founder of the Seventh Wave jr. Ski Racing Team @ Doe
Mt.Pa
1994,95,96 East Coast USA SCCA Solo 1 Champion
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
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From: SOP8920@Siena.edu
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 21:26:00 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Noisy lifters cont.
Hi folks,
This afternoon I cruised down to Pep Boys and bought some of that Gunk
Valve
treatment. I popped it in and drove around for a while, then had my oil
changed. At the shop, I noticed a treatment they offered to remove deposits
and sludge from the engine, so I had that done as well. Due to the ridiculous
rate they charge for syn. I went for the regular dino.
I noticed that the lifter noise seemed reduced by quite a bit. I'll have
to
play a bit more and see if those additives/treatments really did anything
about
it. I had hoped that it would dissappear entirely but that was not the case.
Perhaps if I continue the regimen for a few oil changes I'll see an
improvement.
BTW:
First Sears and now Quick-Lube. I'm really trying to anger the Audi gods.
Beware of oil-change shops. What complete monkey-lads! This is the last
time (I've vowed) that I'll take my car into that place for an oil change.
The guy calls me over and starts going over their bogus maintaince report.
He says,
Him: "Well we couldn't check the transmission fluid on this car because
it doesn't use it."
Me: "What transmission fluid? Do you mean the differential fluid level?"
Him:"Some cars use transmission fluid, others use differential fluid.
Your car is front wheel drive and THERFORE doesn't have a differential."
[Jaw drop and big dumb look]
Me: "Um.. no, this car is all wheel drive and has two differentials."
[I couldn't believe that he didn't think I knew what type of drivetrain my
OWN
car had.]
Him: "Sir, your car is front wheel drive and therefore doesn't have a
differential."
Me: "Okay.. this car is ALL-WHEEL DRIVE, it has two diffentials. One in the
front and one in the rear. It also has a place to check BOTH of them.
Trust me.. I don't want you to check it, it is fine. I just had it
changed
a little while ago."
Him: "uh.. okay. That's just what they told me.. Front wheel drive and no
differential."
[He proceeds to talk to the guy in the "hole" about whether my car is FWD or
AWD]
I couldn't believe the moron. What the heck does FWD have to do with the
differential fluid? Last time I was there.. they told me that the bolts were
on
too tight and they couldn't get them off to check the fluid.
Next time.. I'll do it myself (unless it's 20 below, then I'll take the time
to
bring it to my mechanic.) Sheesh! What the heck was I thinking. I *hate*
having to pace the "waiting room" like an expectant father. And I thought my
exam this morning was stressful.
-Osman (feeling stupid) Parvez
89 200q (156K miles)
Siena College
Albany NY
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From: "Michael R. Leavitt" <mrl@alum.mit.edu>
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 21:29:07 -0500
Subject: A4 1.8T Center console (not)
I am soon to be the proud owner of an A4 1.8T. One of the differences
between the 4 and the 6 appears to be a center console on the 6, and none
on the 4. Has anyone looked into buying one designed for the 6 and fitting
it to the 4 somehow? (Is this problem on a FAQ somewhere?) Any other
solutions to the problem of not enough storage space? Many TIA.
Mike Leavitt <mrl@alum.mit.edu>
Reston, VA
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From: C1J1Miller@aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:05:33 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: towing with a turbo audi? bs reply
hey mel, lighten up a bit. I wasn't talking about towing anything major,
like your Chevette... : )
I've seen ads and books with urq's towing pretty big boats... just asking for
advice, not wise comments.
<<<<<<Let me get this straight. You want to buy a TQ and are curious about
its <<towing capacity. I have a better idea. First get off this mailing
list.
What?
<<Second forget about buying an Audi. (German Driving Machine)
Let's see, this is my second audi, and fourth german "driving machine"
<<Third get a copy of Billy Bob's Truck Search and buy a friggin pickup. If
I see <<the words Audi and towing in the same sentence again I cannot be held
<<responsible for my cars actions.
You must be one hell of a driver, then.
<<Don't blame me when you get run over by a light blue 100Q, sometimes these
<<cars just take off.
Great, more 60 minutes bs on unintended acceleration...
<<Mel
<<89 944S
<<89 100Q
<<72 Chevelle Convertible (my Bebe)
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From: C1J1Miller@aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:05:50 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: towing with a turbo audi? bs reply
hey mel, lighten up a bit. I wasn't talking about towing anything major,
like your Chevette... : )
I've seen ads and books with urq's towing pretty big boats... just asking for
advice, not wise comments.
<<<<<<Let me get this straight. You want to buy a TQ and are curious about
its <<towing capacity. I have a better idea. First get off this mailing
list.
What?
<<Second forget about buying an Audi. (German Driving Machine)
Let's see, this is my second audi, and fourth german "driving machine"
<<Third get a copy of Billy Bob's Truck Search and buy a friggin pickup. If
I see <<the words Audi and towing in the same sentence again I cannot be held
<<responsible for my cars actions.
You must be one hell of a driver, then.
<<Don't blame me when you get run over by a light blue 100Q, sometimes these
<<cars just take off.
Great, more 60 minutes bs on unintended acceleration...
<<Mel
<<89 944S
<<89 100Q
<<72 Chevelle Convertible (my Bebe)
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