Haudi, I've seen the digi-guage ('87 4kq, no mods) up to the first bar above the line between 130 and 170 dC. ie: 170- <=== up to here - 130- That sounds high. That's as high as I've ever seen in the 85 ur-q at 100 degrees F ambient, A/C on high and 80-90 MPH for ~3 hours, stock oil cooler, 160 degree F thermostat and thermoswitch, water always < 180 F. -glen