Gary (Steinbru), Don't get me started on the pathetic state (training + attitude) of U.S. drivers (O.K. its a generalization but IMHO) and the prevailing attitude here that driving is a right and not a privilege....... Phil C. 96 A4q2.8 slushbox (its the wifes but I love it) 88 Supra Turbo w/mods (300+hp)