In a message dated 97-06-23 15:44:12 EDT, you write: << Anybody out there wants to swap 4 good running Golfs for one Audi? :-) >> Sure, I'll swap four GTI's for a Quattro! Kwattro 86 4000CSQ 5, 10v 86 Coupe GT 5, 10v 86 GTI 4, 8v totals,.....14 and 28. add them together, and you get 42. Divide that in half, and you get 21. Almost my age. Kwattro