STEADIRIC, Just what the hell has your friends Callaway incident got to do with the quattro list............. :-) Grumpy because my wifes car is FYO (Laser) red and not black, so I have nothing to defend (like the sado-masochism of buying a black car!) Safe and happy driving. Phil C. 96 A4q2.8 slushbox (its the wifes but I love it)