>> The Euro lights make the V-8 lights look wimpy..... Right Randall??? > >That would be true...unless they are V8 Euro lights, right Eric???? What bulbs are you running? I would rate the Euro lights on my V8 on the poor side of average, better than the Ur-Q euro light but thats not saying much. My VW Transporter ( 1990 Vanagon for most of you) has much better lights. Cheers John Firkins