cobram@Channel1.Com (Cobram) sez: << Here in the states '90 and '91 had only PT engines. '91 was the only year a 5 speed was offered. '92 and on all had ABH engines, with a "modified" ABH engine management on California models. >> Does anyone know when the V8Q's dropped the UFO brakes in favor of conventional brakes and 16" rims? '92? -steve -- Steve Valin sjv@netapp.com 408.367.3566