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re: (long) '91 200q problems, error codes post, any ideas?
- To: quattro@coimbra.ans.net
- Subject: re: (long) '91 200q problems, error codes post, any ideas?
- From: C1J1Miller@aol.com
- Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 20:44:36 -0500 (EST)
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My '91 200q 20v turbo sedan, 3B engine started acting up today:
<My comments in "<>", otherwise from Bentley>
<Pulled codes:>
2324
2341
4442
2111
<Symptoms: at part throttle, under 1 bar on guage, runs ok. Anything over 1
bar, and over about 1/4 throttle, and the car bogs down, runs rich, and the
waste gate frequency valve clicks. Almost seems to backfire.>
<To me, it seems as though there's a massive vacuum leak; unmetered air.
Took off the Michellin Man hose, pressurized with shop vac, no leaks.>
<Note: my waste gate frequency valve is slightly below spec in resistance;
thus the 4442 code. Should I replace this first? It ran fine until today,
even with the 4442 code.>
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Bentley says:
2324
air mass sensor, symptom goes into limp home mode. Open circuit between (G
70) and (J 220).
<The air mass sensor seems to be (G 70). What is (J 220)? The Motronic
control unit?>
Poor throttle response
<yes>
Failure during acceleration
<also yes>
Engine occasionally shuts off during start or while decellerating.
<has been harder to start the last few times; wouldn't start without pushing
throttle pedal. This has happened before, usually when sitting for a while,
but not cold. Never stalled.>
Signal wire to terminal 7 of (J 220) short circuited.
(G 70) defective.
(J 220) input for (G 70) defective.
------------
<I went to repair group 24-160-1. LED tester between terminal 1 of harness
and positive lighted. Good. >
If LED tester lights up, determine break in wiring between terminal 37 of
control unit harness connector and terminal 5 of air mass sensor harness.
Repair or replace as necessary.
<Before I start tearing things apart looking for a wiring break, any BTDT?>
2341
Oxygen sensor control. Control limit exceeded. Control limit underexceeded.
<Seems to fit with a rich "limp home mode" from above.>
4442
Waste gate frequency valve.
<Related?>
2221
<unsuccessful attempt to start engine, disregard as key on, not engine when
running codes.>
<I tried to clear the codes: went through them all, got the four long
flashes, jumped the test lead for four seconds, the light went out. Shut off
ignition, turned it back on 6 seconds later, ran codes. All the same. I
thought this cleared them out? Restarted engine with test light in place,
after several seconds, light comes on and stays on.>
Thanks for any help, Chris Miller, Windham NH, c1j1miller@aol.com