11/11/97 7:01 PM quattro@netconx.net > >Ok, that's fine & dandy... what about it makes it weak though? Same >problems as the standard 5spd S4 tranny? Yup it's the same box, but with 6th gear on the same idler shaft as reverse. Later! Eric Fletcher S.O.C. '87 5KCSTQ with WAY too many toys According to Einstein, the faster you go, the longer you live. St. Louis, MO STEADIRIC@aol.com