Being new to the list but not wanting to sound dumb, here is my question anyway. I have seen many different kinds of abbreviations in the post on this list. I have come to surmise that "4Q" would mean 4000 quattro but what does "UrQ" mean? How about some of the other abbreviations used? -- Lenny Seidman Elkins Park, Pennsylvania, USA email: lseidman@erols.com