yeah, been there, done that... GREAT GAME!!... wish I had a 3d video accelerator card, tho. Even on a 200pentium (non-MMX), it runs slow.... fun to "drive" a 300+hp quattro, tho... very realistic handling of the AWD aspect of Audi... I give the game a 4 on a 5 point scale with 5 being best. John 90 100 93 90cs