Dan, sorry about that Britt string I started. I never got to put in where it was supposed to lead to. In their catalog I saw 5w50 synthetic motor oil and I was just curious if anybody used it. It's under the Freedom name. Don't know the price, yet. The cult, uh, I mean company is kind of secretive about everything. Steve '84 5ksT 1.6-2.0 bar