Re: S4 v. A41.8tq debate

["Osman Parvez" <oparvez1@nycap.rr.com>]

Bruce wrote:
[snip]
> What you overlook, I think, is the fact that A41.8tq will soon be had,
> in cherry condition, on the "used" market for far less than $30k--try
> low $20k's.  

We already have two used 1.8tq's on our lot (slushbox though).

> 
> Boils down to this:  In my '89 200tqw I probably have $10,000, mods
> included.  Now, will someone pay me that for the 147,000 mile car? 
> Nope.  But, what Audi that compares to it can I get [non-modified,
> later make, lower mile, etc.] for double that?  None.  So, the worst
> possible beating I can take is $10k[forget insurance, gas, etc.,
> 'cause everyone is buying it].  Cherry S6 wagons are selling for
> around $30k in some markets----what did they sell for new?:)  They
> have already lost forever more than I can possibly lose---even if I
> just walked away from my car for nothing.
> 
> Point?  Keep buying new cars!  I will need your trade-in few years
> down the road:)  

I had an interesting discussion with my sales manager today about the used
car market. He says that the mid-priced (and up) used car market is dead
(or is on it's way) because of the push for leasing. Many people have
already figured out that on certain makes/models leasing is cheaper than
buying used vehicles. Sure, the less than $5K market is still there (need a
third car for the kid, etc), but used mid-priced and up vehicles are taking
a beating in depreciation. 

Audi still doesn't have fantastic "programs" for leasing, but they are
quickly improving. VW has just recently begun a strong campaign for
leasing. This could amount to great deals for buyers like you or me whom
prefer used vehicles over new ones for they tend to keep them for a long
time. 

I think you'll see the best "deals" on used A8Q's in the near future, for
the market seems to have really slowed down on them. Remember the $10K off
deal that Clair was advertising recently? What do you think that does to
the resale values of the A8q's out there already? 
  
Osman Parvez
Albany, NY
89 200q, TAP Chip, 170K