In message <199802190837_MC2-33EB-13D6@compuserve.com> Neil Swanson writes: > 80mph in the rain is perfect hydro-planing conditions even with quattro. > I've felt it and it ain't tough to do. As low as 60 in the ur-quattro in heavy rain. Like you say, it's in BOLD print in the driver's manual. -- Phil Payne Committee Member, UK Audi [ur-]quattro Owners Club