Re: quattro-digest V4 #1834

[Dave Eaton <dave.eaton@minedu.govt.nz>]

oi guys, you can't have it both ways...

you have said that the torsen can bite, and it sooooo scary that audi wouldn't
dare use it for racing.  tried it probably, but no good....

after proof that they did use it, you're now saying that the torsen would be
different anyway, so it doesn't really matter?  of course it would! so would
the engine, gearbox, brakes, seats, radiator, oil cooler, intercooler, end the
bleeding door seals.  did audi ever race a saloon off the showroom floor? yeah
right...

give us a friggin break!

what we're talking about is the "bite" or lack thereof in the torsen.  audi has
used than in racing and so one would assume, is comfortable with the "bite", or
they found none...

i am certainly much more confortable with the torsen than the snake bite that
is the open centre diff in the generation 1 system.  now that system did bite
me, and made me lock the little sucker as soon as the going looked vaguely like
turning fast/rough...

my audi's can certainly bite the unwary.  all it takes is the usual combination
of speed, ignorance and tetesterone, and voila, snake bite cocktail...

dave
'95 rs2
'90 ur-q

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>Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 18:15:54 EST
>From: QSHIPQ <QSHIPQ@aol.com>
>Subject: Some understanding of the flames
>
>Before we go too far into the torsen in racing argument, let's suffice it to
>say that the torsen you have in your street car has never been used on any
>factory car.  Please, please, before anyone does more intelligence, why not
>take a look at Jeff's website:
>
>http://www.mindspring.com/~audidudi/Torsen.htm
>
>That is the tech paper from the horses mouth.  INTERESTING to note, you CAN
>make a torsen spit where ever you so desire (I would suppose within some
>physical limits), so torsen centers can be made to be 60/40 or 45/55 to 65/35
>by changing helix angle and/or the friction of the side gears (the "shims"
>Graydon referred to 2 years ago).
>
>I am happy to continue this discussion, but speculation is running way out of
>hand.  Torsen centers can be (and probably have been) used in racing,
>specifically to the audis we drive (at 75/25/75), no.  Why would they, they
>aren't the best way around a corner, by the definition technically explained
>in that same paper.
>
>HTH
>
>Scott Justusson