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Re: Fwd: Performance Claims



The 300hp Sport Quattro had a k27 turbo.



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On Sun, 29 Mar 1998, Michael Williams wrote:

> hey this is a letter that my friend wrote me today.  Done Elgin is the 
> same Elgin who does Elgin Cams.  So he is pretty knowledgable, so iwould 
> like to know what the list makes of this...
> 
> later all
> Michael williams
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I talked to Don Elgin today, he was at the school for a meeting and I ran 
> into
> him.  I asked about dynojets and how they get an AWD on them.  He said 
> back
> east they have IM240, which is the 5 gas analysis system that tests for 
> Nox
> and requires a dyno.  There is no such thing AWD dyno, at least nothing
> availible in the US.  More importantly, even if an AWD dyno was possible, 
> you
> could never rate HP or Torque on it.  Power must be given to one set of 
> wheels
> at a time to compute the power.  
> So, the process revolves around disabling the AWD to rate the HP.  But 
> this is
> a complicated process, and says only a few people know how to do it.  
> 
> So, I doubt very much that any of those Audi guys are telling any truth.
> Their engines, as Elgin said, are capable of about 200-250hp, and he has 
> seen
> higher out of K-36 turbos, but the engine is unsafe.  He said the cast 
> iron
> block is bad for the heat, and it dosen't translate to a performance 
> engine in
> any way other than making it unsafe.
> 
> The bottom line is, I think it's BS. There is nothing I can't stand more 
> then
> over estimation of power.  I think those engines are capable of maybe 
> 200hp
> without getting dangerous.  It just stands to reason, and Elgin agrees.  
> 
> The Sport Q had a K-36 (as I can see from the photos), and only got 300hp.
> That is about the end of the line, it is overated as it is.  And Elgin 
> said
> the race engines are TOTALLY different, in every concievable way.  
> 
> He also said the IMSA 90's won not because of superior handling ability, 
> but
> because the Quattro was easy on the tires, and allowed for more time 
> between
> changes.  He says it's the same in ETC and BTC.  The advantage of quattro 
> is
> less tire wear, not handling, not control.  
> 
> 
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