In a message dated 98-04-07 08:25:39 EDT, you write: >me: How bout the S4 at 100lbs less. Is that a performance or a luxury car? << Yes, same as the 5000TQ/200Q: performance luxury car. -glen >> So 500# must not be significant to your evaluation? So urq to 5ktq? Same thing? More specifically the M3 is 3100# the 5ktq 3350. Interesting. Scott