Ken: >Girling yes, but I've >never heard of Lucas. I guess they're the same/related company(?). You've never heard of Lucas the prince of darkness... You've never heard why the English drink warm beer... because Lucas makes their refrigerators..?! This young mans never been nere a true wire wheeled 2 seat sports car... Sorry to poke some (light harted) fun.. Rick Glesner Littleton, Colorado