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Can Scott describe a DIY Spider Bite test? Re: Learning takes comprehension



No, learning does not take comprehension. Comprehension often follows
from learning achieved through experience.

QSHIPQ:
>If you don't understand HOW a torsen bites, works, or doesn't, how can
you
>make considerable efforts to provoke anything?  Jeff's point is that
you don't
>get it, in concept.  So how can you?

By analogy: pick up a loaded revolver, point it at your skull. How much
does a conceptual understanding of gunsmithing, metallurgy, explosives
and ballistics matter to what happens when you squeeze the trigger? To
me, it means dear sweet FA. Practical experience will give you a brief
but meaningful understanding of all you need to know at that point.

So, pro tem, let's ignore the arguments about the theory of Torsens. Can
anyone who firmly believes in spider bite generate a simple, repeatable
test for inducing the Torsen Terror? Name your road surface, speed,
weather, whatever, and specify the maneuver which will generate bite
(and how many repetitions constitute a fair test).

I, for one, would like to see whether the condition appears to affect my
car. What I've tried, and what Dave, Phil etc. have attempted, haven't
yielded it. If (a) the bite exists and (b) its existence is determined
by the hypothesized Torsen behavior that Scott alleges, it should be
relatively easy to find, and comments that <paraphrase> "_I_ can find it
anywhere" are insufficient.

Note, of course, that if the requirements for the test are unreasonably
precise, foolhardy or just outlandish, all that will have proven is that
the conditions required for spider bite are at extremes, where most cars
show their worse nature sooner or later.

If such a test cannot be determined, it dramatically weakens the
allegations which have been made (although, of course, it does not
absolutely refute them). If the test can be determined, then you begin
to get a meaningful (i.e. large n) sample size for statistical analysis
of how likely a problem it is.

Geoff