>Even if the lifters need to be replaced, it's not a hellacious job. >They are about $15 each, for 10, and an hour to replace (?) I just did this about a month ago...Makes a WORLD of difference, the noises go away and you have a mildly quiet car again. Good luck Brendan Barry Boston, Massachusetts Owner of a Glaringly red, 1987 Audi 4000 CS quattro Works like a charm, on Sundays.