FW: trivia question (answer)

["Hussey, Dan" <husseyd@rayovac.com>]

Dave,

I think the first _production_ car with AWD was the 1967 Jensen
Inteceptor FF (yes, and that stands for Ferguson).  It was also the
first production car with ABS brakes.  Had rear seat shoulder harneses
way back in '67 as well.  Quite a remarkable car for it's time.  Built
them all the way though the mid-80's as well.

Later,
Dan

> ----------
> From: 	Eaton Dave[SMTP:dave.eaton@minedu.govt.nz]
> Sent: 	Monday, July 13, 1998 5:12 PM
> To: 	'quattro@coimbra.ans.net'
> Cc: 	'Michael Williams'
> Subject: 	RE: trivia  question (answer)
> 
> techically, the first gp car with awd was the bugatti type 35 designed
> in 1932.  it has a 4.8 litre supercharged dry-sump straight 8 similar
> to
> the type 50 and 54 gp cars.  it had around 300hp.  this was a proper
> awd
> with centre diff, unlike porsche's effort (the cisitalia-porsche)
> which,
> although it had a number of interesting other features, had a
> primitive
> on-demand awd system.
> 
> the type 35 never actually *raced* in a gp, but it did practice for
> the
> monaco gp in 1932.  so i've discounted it.
> 
> both mercedes and alfa both designed awd gp cars in the early 1950's
> but
> these also never came to fruition.
> 
> the ferguson factory's 1st awd gp car was built in 1960.  the very
> innovative f99 was produced in 1960.  it was not particularly
> successful, but raced in new zealand in the 1963 tasman series (driven
> by graeme hill and innes ireland).  it was the basis for most future
> f1
> and indy efforts.
> 
> brm designed an awd machine in 1964 (the p67) for racing under the new
> f1 3 litre formula.  in 1969 most of the british f1 garages had awd
> machines.
> 
> as most know the awd revolution hit indy cars earlier and harry miller
> raced awd in the 500 a couple of times.  first with a 5l v8, and later
> with a 6 litre unit.  1st drive in 1932 i think in the 500.  without
> success.  the following (4-5) years bought a best of 4th (twice).
> miller even took the cars to europe in 1933 where he got his butt
> kicked
> by the alfa's (19s slower lap times!).  later on it was the "success"
> of
> the awd indy cars in the mid to late 1960's (the awd lola t150/152's
> got
> a 3rd with unser/donahue in 1969) which also influenced the british
> and
> new zealand (mclaren) gp houses to experiment with it for gp racing.
> in
> 1969.
> 
> awd was banned by the usac in indy cars after the 1969 season (as a
> method of banning turbines), and is now also banned by the fia in f1.
> 
> but, to answer the question:
> 
> actually there was a little known british car built in 1948, which was
> based on jeep mechanicals (!) and a german army (!!!) steyr v8 of 4.5l
> and 250hp, in the spirit of detente ;-).  it was built by an archie
> butterworth.  the project started in 1948.  he actually ran the car in
> the 1951 silverstone tt.  it blew up.
> 
> so, according to my reckoning, this was the 1st gp undertaken by an
> awd
> car.
> 
> the car went to the usa renamed the "butterball", where it raced pikes
> peak.  the car is now in the fwd museum in clintonville.
> 
> dave
> '95 rs2
> '90 ur-q
> 
> On Monday, July 13, 1998 1:28 PM, Michael Williams
> [SMTP:daserde@ucla.edu] wrote:
> > Eaton Dave decided to speak these words:
> > 
> > >ahh, easy.  the castillisa (sp?) designed by the herr dockter for a
> fee
> > >mostly consisting of a "get out of [french] jail free" card.  1949
> if
> > >memory serves.  only 2 (1?) were ever made, and never raced.
> > 
> > Actually, the first 4wd car was in 1902 designed by Jacobus Spyker.
> It 
> > won the Birmingham Motor Club hillclimb in 1906.  Porsche's car was
> the 
> > Cisitalia.
> > 
> > >
> > >starter for 10, what was the 1st awd car raced in a grand prix?
> and
> the
> > >last?
> > 
> > Well, in 1961, Ferguson Research Ltd created one that won the Oulton
> Park 
> > Gold cup race with Stirling moss as the driver.
> > 
> > BRM had one in 65
> > 
> > McLaren had the M9
> > 
> > Lotus had the 63 iun 1969
> > 
> > The Matra MS84 in 1969....
> > 
> > later...
> > 
> > 
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