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quattro-digest Saturday, August 15 1998 Volume 04 : Number 2638
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* In this issue:
bent guide pin on the rear brake caliper
Re: v8s
A6 coupe and other spy photos
Re: v8s
Re: My Transmission "BARKS"
Re: Audire, audimus, audit... uh, say what?
Un$ub$cribed
Re: Upper intercooler hose cost?
Re: BENZ license plate on a V8q????
Which of the new car rims fit on the 1988 Audi 5000 TQ
Re: v8s
Re: Re: Window problem-not cable or motor
fire extinguishers
Re: Audire, audimus, audit... uh, say what?
Re: quattro-digest V4 #2592
Subject: Re: Quattro Differentials?
1998 Audi A4
89 200 fnt pads needed
clutch pedal play
Re: synth vs. the environment
Re: Cd changer
they keep on ticking
Re: what!!! use a roller!!
I think i just got the best deal on Mobil 1 ever...
RE: I think i just got the best deal on Mobil 1 ever...
Audire, audimus, audit... uh, say what?
Re: I think i just got the best deal on Mobil 1 ever...
FS: 1992 100CS
S4 owners, did I get a good price?
Re: V8 with golf heads ? / R&T Test
4000 GTC Window Regulators
Curious 5000 Engine Problem
Audire, audimus, audit... uh, say what?
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 13:38:05 -0600
From: mmueller@es.com
Subject: bent guide pin on the rear brake caliper
I posted this on the 200q20v list but have since learned that the
urS4/S6, V8, and S8 share the same rear brakes. My problem is that the
guide pin on the passenger side rear caliper of my 200q20v is bent and
needs to be replaced. The dealership would be very happy to sell me a
new caliper for a healthy price. Is there anyone out there with a
useless caliper sitting around that has a good pin?
Thanks all for your help. ' still checking at blau, autobhan was a ney.
Mark Mueller
Evans & Sutherland
Utah
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 17:23:14 EDT
From: FBFISH@aol.com
Subject: Re: v8s
John- Thanks for the rebutal. I have been saying the same things for awhile,
but not as articulate. Even with an A8, I still like prefer the high speed
handling of the V8. The key here as you state is to get one that has been well
maintained!1
Frank santoro
1990 V8
1998 A8
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 14:33:37 -0700
From: "Tim King" <tking_ms@email.msn.com>
Subject: A6 coupe and other spy photos
Sorry if this is a dupe for some of you, but I don't recall seeing this
posted here. Someone posted this to the VW newsgroup. There's a web site
with tons of spy photos -- all marquees. Of special note are the A4 cabrio,
A4 coupe (not TT), the year 200 A4 avant (hmmm...) the sports-estate
(cool), the A6 coupe (wow), and the Passat coupe (big). I have no idea who
these folks are, but the photos are cool.
http://www.automedia-online.com/e_spion.htm
Enjoy.
Tim King
Seattle WA
89 200tqw...stock
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 16:33:38 -0500 (CDT)
From: Lawrence C Katzenstein <Lawrence.C.Katzenstein-1@tc.umn.edu>
Subject: Re: v8s
Frank,
Honestly, I don't get it. When you got online about your V8 6 or 7
months ago, you were complaining about the UFO's. Then you were
complaining about two months ago about the lack of support for ignition
wires. Following this you chose to get a new car and sell the old one. I
gather that the A8 is more refined and more perfected since they've had 8
years of production. However, if you love the V8 so much why pop for $40K+
for the A8? Don't they serve essentially the same mission?
Best,
Larry
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 17:36:17 EDT
From: FBFISH@aol.com
Subject: Re: My Transmission "BARKS"
Brett- Not a good strategy at my audi dealer! They would agree that the old
clunker repair is soo expensive the new car route is the only way to go..
Frank Santoro
1990 V8 (for sale)
1998 A8
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 17:56:58 -0400
From: Richard Beels <beels@technologist.com>
Subject: Re: Audire, audimus, audit... uh, say what?
> (A minor punctilio: both "hoerch" and "audi" are of course 2nd person
> SINGULAR, while "y'all" is the globally familiar Southeast North
> American dialect's pseudo-enclitic indicating 2nd-person PLURAL.
I always thought "y'all" was singular and "all y'all" was the plural form?
Cheers,
Richard
88 90Q - <insert pithy witticism here>
88 Golf GTi - PRO Rally
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 18:07:55 -0700
From: "Brandon Hull" <brandon@cardinalventures.com>
Subject: Un$ub$cribed
I'll be Un$ub$cribed until after labor day, please email privately,
Brandon Hull
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 18:14:55 EDT
From: MSV96@aol.com
Subject: Re: Upper intercooler hose cost?
In a message dated 8/13/98 Steve Manning <stephenm@ix.netcom.com> writes:
<< George - I presume the one on your son's '875ktqs is the same as my '90
200tqw....which is part #034-145-720, which cost me $80 from Linda at
Carlsen (on the vendor list). >>
Steve, could you forward this to George as I did not see his email address.
I have an invoice dated 4/2/98 from Linda with this part number (mine is an
'87) that shows I paid $45.63 for the IC to TB "michelin man" hose George
describes. I needed it bad and quick ;-) otherwise I was going to go with
Graydon's silicon hose which is another option for you to consider. HTH and
not too late...
Mike Veglia
87 5kcstq
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 18:22:43 EDT
From: FBFISH@aol.com
Subject: Re: BENZ license plate on a V8q????
In a message dated 98-08-12 22:41:02 EDT, Ckpcnp@aol.com writes:
<< I was in north andover and saw a dark blue/green v8q with the licence plate
that said "BENZ" Who would do such a thing????? Are they confused?? I
think
it's an insult, but that's my opinion
Craig K. Porter
86 4kcsq >>
Craig- Probably someone who came to his senses. All V8 owners know their
machines are head and shoulders over the Mwec!! Oops, did I go too far.
Frank Santoro
1990 V8 (for sale)
1998 A8
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 18:46:52 EDT
From: AQUATTRO4U@aol.com
Subject: Which of the new car rims fit on the 1988 Audi 5000 TQ
Hi everyone I'm curious which of the new car rims have the correct 5 lug
pattern with the 45mm offset I need for my "88 5000 TQ. I am looking for a
good deal on a set of take offs.
I've heard the A4 sport rims 16x7 7"w work. Anyone know of a good deal?
Please e-mail me at AQUATTRO4U@aol.com
Thank you very much in advance for your help.
Howard Dinits
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 20:00:27 EDT
From: FBFISH@aol.com
Subject: Re: v8s
Frank,
Honestly, I don't get it. When you got online about your V8 6 or 7
months ago, you were complaining about the UFO's. Then you were
complaining about two months ago about the lack of support for ignition
wires. Following this you chose to get a new car and sell the old one. I
gather that the A8 is more refined and more perfected since they've had 8
years of production. However, if you love the V8 so much why pop for $40K+
for the A8? Don't they serve essentially the same mission?
Best,
Larry- Your memory is good, what you say is mostly true. I did/do complain
about the product support from Audi for the V8. I never have had any problems
with the brakes! Thanks to this list, most of my parts availability problems
get solved around, not through the dealer. Relative to the A8 vs V8 its quite
simple, I wanted it so I bought it!! When you get to my age you realize just
how short life is, and you can't take it with you. You have had a bad
experince with your V8 I have not. I love the car but for many reasons some
stated above, I would not recommend it to someone who doesn't do all or most
of his own work.
Frank Santoro
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 20:10:40 -0400
From: "Smith, Kirby A" <kirby.a.smith@lmco.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Window problem-not cable or motor
Scott (SSpangenbe@aol.com) asked:
What would you suggest instead of WD40?
AFAIK, WD40 is not intended as a contact cleaner. Contact cleaners can be
obtained from electronics stores. It is best to open the switch (nickel
shim stock helps here) and clean the contacts with a contact burnishing
tool. (Crocus cloth would probably work.) Then coat with a _small_ amount
of ProGold, Stabilant 22, or equivalent. TV contact cleaner with lube would
also do for a while.
.... Kirby (Kirby A. Smith)
2 x 1988 90q
New Hampshire USA
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 19:12:02 -0500 (CDT)
From: Virtual Bob <h93young@creighton.edu>
Subject: fire extinguishers
For ye who got fire extinguishers, do you got the power kind or the CO2
kind? Anything special to look for other than size? What brand to look
for? To avoid?
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 20:27:05 -0400
From: "Smith, Kirby A" <kirby.a.smith@lmco.com>
Subject: Re: Audire, audimus, audit... uh, say what?
You wrote:
Brett Dikeman (whose signature file hints that he really ought to
know better) asks about Audi:
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I believe Brett once admitted a friend wrote that for him.
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> Is that what AUDI stands for? I was always told it mean "to listen",
> ie, the companies merged and "listened" to each other, the "listen"
> to consumers/drivers.
This looks like a job for... Mister Dead Language Guy!
<Great stuff snipped> Thank you for the entertaining summary.
- --Scott "Audi est omnia divisa in partes Quattuor" Fisher
.... Kirby (Kirby A. Smith)
duo MCMLXXXVIII nonaginta quattuor
Novem Hampshirem, USA
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 17:27:23 PDT
From: "jagadeesh yedetore" <jaggi26@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: quattro-digest V4 #2592
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TO:
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91' 200TQ
Looking for more
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 20:49:56 EDT
From: C1J1Miller@aol.com
Subject: Subject: Re: Quattro Differentials?
Luis Marques wrote:
- --------
T*rsens simply don't lock. They actively distribute torque up to a
~20/80% limit. This means that the wheel with more traction gets up to
fourt times the power as the wheel with less traction, but if that wheel
has no traction, zero times four is still zero ;) Under normal driving
conditions, ALL quattros send 1/4 of the power to each wheel.
- ---------
Lets be a little more accurate: pre-electronic differential lock (EDL) cars,
which were phased in circa '95?, back to '88, t*rsen's were used in center
differential applications, except for all V8s, which have rear T*rsen diffs,
or the '91 V8 manual, which used a T*rsen center _and_ rear differential.
Front differentials are open in all of the cars. (EDL uses the anti-lock
brake function to slow a spinning wheel until it regains traction.)
A center T*rsen shifts torque between the front and rear axle, only. The rear
differential is normally open, but can be locked with an electric switch,
which which is designed to unlock at speeds over 15 mph.
If one front wheel loses traction, the open front diff shifts power to that
wheel, causing it to spin. If both front lose traction, one side will spin.
The t*rsen center will shift torque towards the rear diff/axle until either
traction up front is restored (less torque should help stop wheel spin/slip),
or the maximum shift of 78% rear is reached. The car will still put 78% of
the engine torque to the rear axle; the other 22% goes to keep the front
spinning faster and faster...
Same for the opposite scenario; if a rear wheel slips, it will do the same,
transfering power to the front. This is not what pre-t*rsen cars did; they
would shift the power to the one wheel that slips; technically, you'd stay
still if one wheel was on wet ice. Even open diffs transfer a little power to
the other wheels, however.
Now, if you drove a T*rsen center car where both driver's side or both
passenger's side wheels had no traction, you'd get the same results as a pre-
T*rsen car. In both cases, locking the rear diff will get you moving again.
Now, if both rears and one front lose traction, you're in trouble. Usually
you slow down, or get onto ground with better traction, or both.
Under normal driving conditions, the T*rsen will split torque 50-50 between
front and rear axles; however, I've been told that open diffs typically send
more torque to one side than the other, so you're mostly 2 wheel drive, which
is double what most front or rear wheel drive cars give you... Isn't that
what torque steer is, when the open diff sends power to mostly one wheel
(especially with unequal length front driveshafts...)
Before the debate about locking versus T*rsen diffs (and others) starts, there
was a fairly heated debate on the list for about the last year, involving
t*rsen operation, whether they were used in racing or not, and whether they
cause rapid understeer/oversteer/understeer changes during extreme cornering
(or cornering in low traction conditions). That debate has been sent off list
and is extensive in the archives; start there first. That's why T*rsen is
spelled with a * versus an o; I believe Dan's put up a filter to limit WOB.
Hopefully this wasn't such in your eyes...
Clear as a night lit by audi's DOT headlights?
Chris Miller,Windham NH, c1j1miller@aol.com
http://members.aol.com/c1j1miller/index.html
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 18:12:33 -0700
From: Ramsey Ksar <ramseyk@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com>
Subject: 1998 Audi A4
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This most certainly has been discussed before but I was wondering if I
couldn't get some input for you all... Also, does anyone know if there
is going to be anything different in the '99s?
Thanks!
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 21:23:51 EDT
From: Chewy4000@aol.com
Subject: 89 200 fnt pads needed
Some one had some sets of front pads for my 89 200 Tq.
The odd ones.
Pls let me know, if they are still available.
TIA
Chewy
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 21:35:14 -0400
From: Brett Dikeman <brett@pdikeman.ne.mediaone.net>
Subject: clutch pedal play
Hello all,
Boomer is very happy with all the brakes bled and now, the clutch as well;
it was suprisingly easy to do with the help of a friend. Including waiting
for the engine to cool a little, lots of yakking, joking around+stuff, it
took us about an hour; maybe 15 minutes of that was actual messing with the
screw+doing the pumping. Lots of crap came out; the brake fluid was dark
brown, and the bottom of the container had a lot of black bits; rubber I
assume, which is kinda unfortunate. I did 2-3 bleed cycles, which I
figured was good enough for now; I intend to do a second bleed all around
after I get back from my trip to NH this weekend.
What was odd was that the clutch was remarkably easier to operate after the
brakes had been bled. I'm not exactly sure why, either.
Anyways, the clutch pedal has play in it; it did _before_ the bleed as
well, so it's not like I sucked some air into the system. I suspect more
that it's play between the pedal and the master cylinder.
How can one adjust this(or perhaps a better question is, how can one
eliminate this "play")?
Thanks!
Brett
91 200q20v
- ------
Brett Dikeman
brett@pdikeman.ne.mediaone.net
~)-|
Hostes alienigeni me abduxerunt. Qui annus est?
Te audire non possum. Musa sapientum fixa est in aure.
Ita, scio hunc 'sig file' veterem fieri.
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 21:59:37 -0400
From: Chris Woodward <cwoodwar@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: synth vs. the environment
Huw Powell wrote:
> Audi content? Um, anyone know if metalmaster pads will keep my wheels
> clean(er), and how about a source for OEM dimensioned shocks and struts?
They did on my WMB -- but they eat rotors faster than the organic ones do.
Chris
'97 A4t
'90 80
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 22:06:59 -0400
From: Chris Woodward <cwoodwar@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Cd changer
First I must say--"I hate you!" Just kidding--but I do want your car! Have
you tried Crutchfield? www.crutchfield.com
Good luck,
Chris
pk001c@uhura.cc.rochester.edu wrote:
> Hey guys,
> I had a question , last time I asked here I got a great answer for my audi,
> so Ill try you on a question for a benz. I just got a 99 SLK 230 and was
> wondering if you knew where I can get a cd changer for it. I dont want to
> pay the exobitant price from the dealer, are there adapters? I knwo that the
> system now uses a fiber optic link, thant may casue some serious
> compatabilty problems.
>
> thanks for your help
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 22:19:18 EDT
From: DOUBLDz@aol.com
Subject: they keep on ticking
I just read this ad in my local paper:
83 5000 Turbo Diesel - runs strong, body excellent. $1200 or B/O.
290K miles!!!!!!!!!!!!
Its nice to know that when you buy an Audi, it will usually be boredom that
forces you to buy a new one.
Dee
95A6q pearl with only 251K miles to go. OK its not a diesel maybe only 210K :
)
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 22:23:00 EDT
From: Autobahn01@aol.com
Subject: Re: what!!! use a roller!!
In a message dated 98-08-14 12:55:09 EDT, meyeke@netinc.ca writes:
<< .i've done that
before..looks really bad. make your way to dunnville ontario...40 miles
outside buffalo ny and i'll paint it for the cost of the paint...you
prep...i'll help mask. quality paint too..house of colours custom car paint.
>>
Oooh! Hey Mike, is that an open invite for any/all old timer qlisters? Cause
ya see I've got this TQC that could use a fresh coat....
- -Cheers
Chris Semple
Autobahn01@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 98 20:04:28 -0700
From: Michael Williams <daserde@ucla.edu>
Subject: I think i just got the best deal on Mobil 1 ever...
hey all, i think i just got one of the best deals on Mobil 1. WEll, i
went to the local Grand Auto and picked out a 6 pack of 15w-50 and went
up to the register, gave her my Visa cause i didnt have enough cash on
me. Well for some reason or another it was rejected. I asked her to try
again cause it should go through...i was completely baffled. Well, it
still didnt work. I said to her: "do you take ATM cards?" she said no
and i was just about to leave when she said, Hold on. I stood there
while she cancelled the Mobil 1 from my order, along with some of that
orange hand cleaner i was buying and she put in: 1 20-oz Pepsi and said
"do you have $1.07?" i said yeah, she took the dollar, and i left.
Talk about a deal, i think thats about: 17.83 cents per quart...not
bad...hehe
later...
Michael Sheridan Williams
ICQ# 11740998
1985 4000 S Quattro 183,000+ miles, Koni Yellows/Coilover (2B), strut
brace, Sport 8000 Tires, K&N, MOMO 4pt harnesses, Hella XL Driving lights
(excuse me, auxilliary low beams) (2x135w), magnecor wires....<out of
breath>
1986 Oceanic Blue, 4000CS Quattro--Parting Out(ask if you want anything)
My father's: 1986 4000 CS Quattro--Graphite 161,000 miles
http://members.aol.com/daserde2
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 23:21:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: audidudi@mindspring.com (Jeffrey J. Goggin)
Subject: RE: I think i just got the best deal on Mobil 1 ever...
>Talk about a deal, i think thats about: 17.83 cents per quart...not
>bad...hehe
Are you really meaning to brag about this? Why not be honest and admit to
buying the Pepsi and stealing the oil? Doesn't have quite the same ring to
it but for all practical purposes, that's exactly what you did. I guess
some people truly know no shame... :^(
(As it so happens, I also bought 10 quarts of Mobil One tonight myself at
Walmart and happily paid $3.97 for each and every one of them!)
________________________________________________________________________
_ _
/ | _| o | \ _| o Jeffrey Goggin
/__| | | / | | __ | | | | / | | audidudi@mindspring.com
/ | |_| \_| | |_/ |_| \_| | http://www.mindspring.com/~audidudi/
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 20:37:25 PST
From: Andrew Buc <abuc@ibm.net>
Subject: Audire, audimus, audit... uh, say what?
Addressed to: sefisher@cisco.com
Audi List <quattro@coimbra.ans.net>
** Reply to note from Scott Fisher <sefisher@cisco.com> Fri, 14 Aug 1998 11:38:11 -0700
>
> (I'm also now not entirely sure about
> Herr Hoerch's first name; my sometimes leaky carbon-based memory unit is
> coming up with Gustav but I thought it was part of the Reinheitsgebot
> that all German automotive-firm founders had to be named Ferdinand, just
> as all French kings had to be named Louis.)
I think his first name was August. And doesn't the Reinheitsgebot deal
w/brewing beer? :)
> But I digress. Hoerch had earlier started a company making a car
> called, with a singular lack of imagination, the Hoerch, then later went
> on for reasons I cannot recall to found a second company. "Hoerch" is
> the German cognate of the English word "hark," or "listen up, y'all" in
> American Hillbilly Speak, since someone brought it up recently -- in
> either case, it's the 2nd person imperative form of the verb "hoeren,"
> to hear. Since Herr Hoerch appears to have some classical education, he
> named his second company Audi.
>
I forget the exact circumstances of his leaving his original company. But I
think he was bought out, and part of the deal was that he was free to go off
and make more cars, but not w/a Hoerch badge on them. The inspiration to use
"Audi" came from his son.
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 22:38:03 -0500 (CDT)
From: Virtual Bob <h93young@creighton.edu>
Subject: Re: I think i just got the best deal on Mobil 1 ever...
On Fri, 14 Aug 1998, Michael Williams wrote:
>...
>and i was just about to leave when she said, Hold on. I stood there
>while she cancelled the Mobil 1 from my order, along with some of that
>orange hand cleaner i was buying and she put in: 1 20-oz Pepsi and said
>"do you have $1.07?" i said yeah, she took the dollar, and i left.
>
>Talk about a deal, i think thats about: 17.83 cents per quart...not
>bad...hehe
Guess it goes to show that ladies usually will have tough time to get
car-nut-type guys. No matter how she flirts it out, the car-nut would
totally miss the sign.
And you didn't even ask her if she wants a Pepsi...
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 23:55:56 -0400
From: Scott 20191668 Bermes <scottb2460@earthlink.net>
Subject: FS: 1992 100CS
Well, I found a very nice 92 S4 and now need to part with my beloved
100CS and was hoping a fellow lister could use a wonderfully maintained
and no problem Audi. If anybody is interested, I can fill you in with
more details, but it has the following:
front wheel drive
114k miles (purchased in Jan 98 with 87k miles, I have put the rest on
as a result of weekly job commutes between NC and GA)
new front pads and rotors
keyless remote
ecru leather in good condition
green exterior
Michelins have a lot of life remaining
all scheduled maintance has been done on the car
I am the second owner
asking $9,750 obo
car is either in Atlanta or Greensboro, NC depending on the day of the
week. Don't make me sell it to a wholesaler!!! email or call me at
770-457-1545 if your interested
Scott
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Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 00:01:32 -0400
From: Scott 20191668 Bermes <scottb2460@earthlink.net>
Subject: S4 owners, did I get a good price?
I am the proud new parent of a 92 S4 with 53k miles! I am buying it
from a Boston area dealer for $20k, does that sound ok? I have been
hunting around and didn't want to lose out and they did come down $1500
from their advertised price. It's green with ecru interior and had gone
through an Audi dealer checklist and they did a few things before
putting it out for sale. Once the dust settles and I get up to the
Boston area next week to pick it up, I'll register it on the audi-s-cars
web page and make sure to bookmark that site!
Scott
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 20:05:29 -0400
From: CLIFFORD ILKAY <clifford_ilkay@dinamis.com>
Subject: Re: V8 with golf heads ? / R&T Test
Clifford Ilkay wrote:
>>According to the article which compared the 1990 V8Q and the BMW M5 in
Mike LaRosa wrote:
>They tested the V8 against the 300E and a 535 not the M5.
>
>>either Road & Track or Car and Driver back in 1989 or 1990,
>
>It was Road & Track, November 1989. It's sitting in my office :-)
Mike, I am not imagining things. I read the review and also have the issue
of the magazine packed away. Nice to know that *another* review was done.
Clifford Ilkay
1990 V8Q black/black
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Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 00:18:18 EDT
From: ECP4NOW@aol.com
Subject: 4000 GTC Window Regulators
I received a call from an friend last week, the driver's regulator side
window regulator on his 1985 Coupe GT had broken. I told him, I had none
available, and that he should try some after market places. He called me back
today said he happened to be at a salvage yard that specializes in VWs, he
looked at a Scirroco and thought it looked a lot like the door of his coupe,
so he pulled the door panel, pulled out the window regulator. He then removed
the guide arm that the window rides up and down on and replced it with the one
form the coupe and 10 minutes later he had the window working better then
anytime since he purchased the car from me 2 years ago. I haven't seen the
finished job, and I haven't seen this fix listed on the list before, I thought
I would pass it along.
Clarke
1983 Ur-Q (for sale)
1984 Coupe GT (for daily)
1986 Ur-Q (yes one of 5 imported to North America any idea where the other 4
are?)
1997 Legacy GT (for the Significant Other)
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Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 00:32:31 -0400
From: dplain@disknet.com
Subject: Curious 5000 Engine Problem
To
I have a customer with a curious intermittent problem. He has a 87
5000s with about 150k that runs fine most of the time. On some days if
he drives the car for about 1/2 to 1 hour it will sputter and die. If
he reacts quickly enough holding the accelerator to the floor the car
will keep running (just barely). If it quits, however, it will not
restart until it has sat for some time to cool off. The weather has no
effect on its behaviour it will act-up without warning any time
anywhere. When it dies it does not smoke, no warning lights, no odd
noises, nothing, before it quits.
Naturally when he brings the car to me it works just fine. Now I have
checked all of the obvious and not-so obvious things (fuel pump, fuel
quality, sensors, connectors, ignition, exhaust restrictions, etc.,
etc.).
Then he came to me today with what he thought was the answer: The car
only acted-up when it was one quart low on oil. His fiance was driving
the car the other day when it quit. She pulled off the road and checked
the oil -- one quart low. She added a quart of oil started the car and
it ran fine all day. I haven't tested his hypothesis but I have never
heard of such a thing.
Audi didn't put some kind of hidden low-oil shut down on their cars did
they? Has anyone on the list heard of such a problem? Any assistance
would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Dave.
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Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 09:39:55 GMT
From: quk@isham-research.demon.co.uk (Phil Payne)
Subject: Audire, audimus, audit... uh, say what?
In message <35D48413.E988E57F@cisco.com> Scott Fisher writes:
> This looks like a job for... Mister Dead Language Guy!
> Audi is in fact a Latin word: the 2nd person imperative form of the verb
> audire, which means "to hear."
Correct.
> from the firm's original founder, whose last name was Hoerch (and there
> should be an umlaut over that o but I don't wanna poke around the keyset
> to figure out how to do that).
NumLock on, alt-148 on the numeric pad. I've never seen "Horch" spelt
spelt with an Umlaut.
> But I digress. Hoerch had earlier started a company making a car
> called, with a singular lack of imagination, the Hoerch, then later went
> on for reasons I cannot recall to found a second company. "Hoerch" is
> the German cognate of the English word "hark," or "listen up, y'all" in
> American Hillbilly Speak, since someone brought it up recently -- in
> either case, it's the 2nd person imperative form of the verb "hoeren,"
> to hear.
Nah. "Horch" is a verb in its own right, quite distinct from "hoeren".
> (A minor punctilio: both "hoerch" and "audi" are of course 2nd person
> SINGULAR,
The significance here is that the singular is also the familiar, and is
never used to a specific adult stranger. For those fully cogniscent of
the rules of German grammar, it's an insult. Around a decade ago, a
German driver was fined around $3000 for using "du" to a police officer.
Don't worry - the Germans won't fine _YOU_ for doing it - they're very
tolerant of strangers who don't know the rules and almost expect it.
Indeed, some younger people will automatically start a conversation with
a German-speaking foreigner in the familiar sense. It's also used
widely on the Internet.
The imperative is often used to an undefined audience in the singular.
You see it quite frequently in German advertising. "Horchen" also
has a military meaning - to hearken to commands - and it's therefore
quite normal to see it in the second person as if it were a military
order. Like "Hark!"
- --
Phil Payne
Phone: 0385 302803 Fax: 01536 723021
(The contents of this post will _NOT_ appear in the UK Newsletter.)
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