I noticed an interesting thing the other day while waiting for my passport photos. I could see the back end of what I thought was a wmb ZM3 protruding behind a chebby van. i noticed it because it was an odd green I had never seen on a wmb before. Turns out, upon closer inspection, that it was a honda civic hatchback. I think I like the civic's looks better myself (my $0.02 worth) Peter