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I propose:
> I find that Johns argument to be more valid than Phil, Dave et. al.
Regarding
> the A4q, a couple of problems comparing TCC with our beloved street cars.
> 19in wheels, 343f/330r (that's 13.5in and 13in brakes respectively), 55f/45r
> weight dist, 300hp.

Phil writes:
>>And, of course, the BMWs were absolutely stock road cars.

Nope, not at all.  However, do you really want to go there?  At least the BMW
uses the rwd setup it does in the road version.  The A4 TCC used VC
differentials in all three diffs, that never was offered in the road cars.
Even the torque split wasn't offered.  You just make my point more valid.
Comparing these cars  in racing trim means little.  So why use that comparo?
It does nothing when you put both on the street.  The reality of a 19in wheel
alone makes most of us wince.  Heck the reality of a 17in wheel on a street
quattro has been shared here by many...

>>When I see a quattro spin on a bend that a BMW gets round, I might
>>start believing some of this.

Er, ah, no let's correct the statement for the chassis dynamics of a quattro v
the bmw.  At the speed the BMW goes around the bend, the quattro understeers
off the outside of it.  Compare your published roadholding lateral g's.  Your
above statement seems rather amazing.  

Look, there is a guy that has an M3 4door at just about every Quattro Club
Event here.  He sets the FTD for the rest of the really tweeked quattros to
meet.  Then he bolts his street tires on, plugs in his cd, and drives home to
work, warrantee intact.  He's already drinking his beers at the hotel before
Anderson is done loading his Urq on the trailer.

Me and my watch, we just don't understand your posts, Phil.  Can a quattro
outhandle a bimmer?  Sure.  A few anecdotes are no antidote for good solid
chassis dynamics.

Scott