yes, this is basically what we'r etlaking about. on my suzuki it sounds like a woodpecker - just one cylinder, though. On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, Wallace White wrote: [deletia with cool visual aids] :|Is that what we're talking about? -- '83 ur-q - yamaha rz350 - suzuki ts250 - chaotic good http://caliban.sf.ca.us/ this message was composed using the vi editor.