If you still are stuck after trying everthing, have the windshield double and triple checked. Take off any inside moldings that you can to get a good look at the inside of seal. Had a VW Fox that turned out to still be windshield after doing all the things you have done. David >Any other experience or hidden tricks anyone has >discovered? >>Thanks Gary A. 91 200, 85 4K, 85 4K, '88 80....