qlist- Thanks to all for their help and or advice (especially caliban)! Called Linda at Carlsen today and it will run me $30.60 including shipping! I have been getting robbed at my local dealer for a long time... Ron Roth Ithaca, NY USA 84 4ks "Heidi" audifan1@aol.com http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/8793/index.html