RE: <90+> <FS>Bose System re-fit/Speakers for sale

["Dan Sinclair" <sinclair@prospro.com>]

I've found the same in earlier Audi "self-amplified" non-Bose systems.  I
came up with a plausible alternative to rebuilding the entire system.  I
bought a JVC FM-Modulated CD Changer.  It plugs into the FM antenna socket
on any head unit, and sends the CD audio as an FM signal.  You tune it on
the radio - very common.  I've heard people criticize such setups because
the FM modulation "alters" the sound quality, but my system sounds
exceptionally clear and tight, without speaker or head unit change out.  I
added a Collins self-amplified subwoofer (also installs without modifying
existing stereo hardware) and the system sound quality now surpasses my
$1,500+ aftermarket system that I'd installed in my previous car.  Added
bonus - externally my stereo LOOKS stock - very low theft potential.

Dan Sinclair
1988 Audi 90 67K

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-quattro@coimbra.ans.net
> [mailto:owner-quattro@coimbra.ans.net]On Behalf Of Pete Keating
> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 1999 5:51 AM
> To: apowell@ezlink.com
> Cc: z-car@taex001.tamu.edu; Quattro@coimbra.ans.net
> Subject: Re: <90+> <FS>Bose System re-fit/Speakers for sale
>
>
> apowell@ezlink.com wrote:
> >
> > I'm copying this memo to the Z-car group, as it might be pertinent
> > to someone with a 90+ Z-car having a Bose stereo.
> >
> > I have just tried - for the second time - to use the a conventional
> > JVC stereo with the Bose speakers and amps in my 1990 Audi 200
> > using the stereo to Bose adapter which Crutchfield supplies.  The
> > first time I tried this - about three years ago - I was very
> > disappointed with the sound resulting, as the adapter had a high
> > hiss level and the sound was not clean at volume.  I hoped their
> > conventional radio to Bose speaker system adapters had improved.
> >
> > My report to you is that the Crutchfield adapters have NOT
> > improved.  I'm using a new JVC stereo and attempted to connect to
> > the Bose speakers/amps through the adapter, and the sound was
> > only acceptable at VERY low volumes.  As soon as the volume
> > was raised to anything above a moderate listening level (the kind of
> > volume I'd use to listen to a newscast...) distortion was immediate
> > and highly objectionable!!  I have returned the adapter.
> >
> > I tried using a conventional stereo and driving the Bose speakers
> > directly with the Bose amps disconnected, but that does NOT give
> > good sound either.  Those Bose speakers are NOT designed to be
> > driven by anything but a Bose amp with lots of EQ built in.
> >
> > IMO (based on three years of trials) the only good options on a
> > Bose system vehicle are:
> >
> > 1)  Don't change a thing!
> > 2)  Change radio and speakers, complete.
> >
> > Any in-between step will result in substandard sound.
> >
> > So - FOR SALE: four Bose speakers and amps.  I know that some
> > on these lists have had failures of speakers or amps, and I prefer to
> > sell all this stuff to one buyer. I will part it out if I get
> inquiries from
> > different people on different parts of the system.  I will provide Bose
> > part numbers below so you can cross-check with the marks on
> > your existing equipment.  These will surely cross with Audi
> > equipment, but they may also cross with some of the Z-car
> > systems.
> >
> > Speakers:
> > Front: 2 ea., 4.5" diameter, 3 mounting holes, Bose #109638P
> > stamped on magnet.  Sticker on magnet has Bose #132498-4
> >
> > Rear: 2 ea., 6x9", Bose #133074P stamped on magnet. Sticker on
> > magnet has Bose #132495-1
> >
> > Amplifiers:
> > Front - 2 ea, labeled:
> > Alpha C/L front
> > 133356-A01
> > 3616/WA01 (Left side)
> > 3621/WA01 (Right side)
> >
> > Rear: 2 ea, complete with plastic "baskets" in which they mount:
> > Labeled -
> > Alpha Lea. Rear
> > 133356-A02
> > 3451/HA02 (Left side)
> > 3547/HA02 (Right side)
> >
> > I'll take $80 for the complete set!!  What a deal!! (Hey - try buying
> > an amp from Bose or Audi for that....).  Buyer pays shipping.
> >
> > I can also now attest that the following speakes sound GREAT in
> > my Audi 200, but are not suitable for high power systems, as
> > they're not rated to take much more power than the 40W my JVC
> > stereo puts out...
> >
> > Front (door): Polk EX501A, 5-inch (requires slight Dremel-ing of
> > Bose enclosures to convert from three-bolt to four-bolt mount.)
> >
> > Rear: Polk EX692A, 6x9 inch (a bolt-in, no sweat).
> >
> > I thank you.  Please let me know if you're interested in the
> > speakers and amps.
> >
> > ++++++++++++++++++++WSU-CSU+++++++++++++++++
> > Al Powell
> > Apowell@EZlink.com
> > 1958 Fiat 1200 Spyder "Transformabile"
> > 1983 Datsun 280ZXT
> > 1990 Audi 200
> > http://www.ezlink.com/~powells/
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Al,
>
> I believe Bose treats the output/speaker system as a current source, not
> a voltage source. Therefore the characteristic impeadence of the
> speakers (and their working range) is vastly different than if they
> were typical voltage "sourcing".
>
> Pete Keating
> (can't spell GEEK w/o double "EE")
>