Dunno, but try this: Now that's it's winter, take him for a spin.... <g> More dramatic than just popping the hood and showing him, but hey, you wanted an impact.... At 06:22 PM 1/18/1999 , Chris Beghtel was inspired to say: > > <snip> > > Might this have an impact? Cheers, Richard 88 90Q "Hannu" - K+N, new vac hoses, lubed U-Joint, still 0.0 bar.... 88 Golf GTi - PRO Rally