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RE: 4000 Quattro and other stuff..
I know there's been discussion before on what works better on a 4000Q - 15"
or 16". There are a lot more tires available in 205/50-15 than 215/40-16
(though I hear 225/40-16 is a possibility if the car hasn't been lowered).
I like the 215/40 because it shortens the final drive a bit and provides a
little more wheel well clearance.
Someone a while back recommended using 15" instead of 16" on the track,
though I don't know if it was because of the lighter weight or the lack of
16" competition tires to fit the 4000Q (I think just the Hoosiers).
I'm currenly running 205/50-15's on 7" rims on my 4000Q, with Dunlop D60's.I
would recommend this tire to anyone looking for an all-season tire to run in
the winter, especially when you're on snowy/icy roads less than 10% of the
time. Definitely do not compare to super sticky summer tires, but work ok if
you pump up the pressures. Clunk pretty bad under hard cornering,though.
I found a good deal on some BBS 16" rims for the car. So now I'll be using
16x7.5" with Pirelli P7000 Summer (not SuperSport) very soon.
I don't think the extra few pounds of the 16" wheel vs the 15" should be of
much concern for street use, especially with a stiffened suspension. The
big disadvantage to the 16" setup is potential damage to the rims with such
a short stiff sidewall. Do rim protectors, such as on the Toyo T1's, really
help?
I'll post some feedback on how the 16's work vs 15's, although comparing
D60's to any high-performance summer only tire is not really fair.
Gary Kaklikian
86 4kcsq (turbo soon)
86 5kcstq
btw, Tire Rack has the P700's for only $65 in a 205/50-15!
-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Phenneger [mailto:phen9461@uidaho.edu]
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 1999 3:26 PM
To: Martin Pajak
Cc: Brendan/Coolian; Quattro List
Subject: Re: 4000 Quattro and other stuff..
On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, Martin Pajak wrote:
Well, Just so you know, I am supporting 15's over 16's. I was
just playing devils advocate and stating the only disadvantage I can think
of for the 15's. THere ARE more tires availalbe in 16" sizes for
Performance tires.
> A520's are available in lot's of sizes all the way from 185/60 14 through
205/50
> 15 and so on.
NOt according to Tire Rack. They only have them in 204/40-16 as
the smallest size. PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong as I like this tire.
Tell me where to get it in 15" & 14" sizes.
But, to name a few more support my point a little, Falken GR-b
(but supposedly this will change), Yoko AVS S-1, the Bridgestone S-02,
Pirelli P7000SS (I like it for a daily driver due to high tread life)
looks like P7000 is now available in 215/50-15 (hmm, guess what, I think
that may go on UR-Q) :-) As close to the OEM rubber as it gets too. But
better, Uhh, P-Zero Directionale is 16" only, BF-G G-Force TA is 17" only
but I'm SURE this will change.
But, there are still many GREAT tires to choose from. Goodyear
F1, Bridgestone RE-71 (my current tire, good but cheap, but fast wear rate
with 140 tread wear), Bridgestone S-01, Yoko AVS, 509, A032R (My next
track tire so I can drive to the track and drive there for Lots of laps
without overheating my street tires), Michelin Pilot SX MXX3, Dunlop 9000,
Toyo F1, T1, BFG TA ZR.....to name a few.
But, as I said, if you know where to fine 520's in 14 & 15" sizes
please speak up.
> If you look at Tire Rack and such they still have A509's and those are
have not
> been made for a long time (so I hear from Yokohama).Going up in size means
going
> twice in cost.A520's in 205/60 15" are $115 CDN each, 225/50 16" (to keep
the
> same dia.) are $195 CDN!Kind of costly when you go through a set of tires
in one
> summer.
Yes, thats a good point I forgot to mention. And 17's are even
MORE.
> One thing I noticed with 195/50 on 15" Ronal R8's.
> They do not like put holes.
> The rims do bend easily when there is very little sidewall (also hard
sidewall)
> to protect them (soft aluminium), had to get them fixed twice now.
> Never had this problem with the 14".
Nope. Sure dont. I had that size when I first got the 4kq. Now
I run 205/50-15 and it is a LITTLE better. I wouldn't want to go any less
unless you have a VERY strong rally rim. (you can read that as HEavy Rim
if you like) althoguh the Compomotive rims aren't TOO bad considering how
strong they are.
L8R
Todd