Re: MB vs WR Cosmetic Diffs???

[Todd Phenneger <phen9461@uidaho.edu>]

On Fri, 5 Mar 1999, Lawson, Dave wrote:

> these were installed starting in the MY 1985. The US ur-qs have this
> grill with sloped quad headlight trim.

	Was it 85' in Europe as well?  When did the MB come out in Europe?
Same time as new grille or is this unrelated.

> very close, you can trim the sloped 4k grill to fit, be sure to get the
> upper and lower headlight trim pieces

	Cool, thanks.

> the valence is 1 peice and the bumper is 1 peice, not counting the
> bumper mounted fog lights or h/l washers

	So the entire Bumper Cover/Valence is One Piece?

> >	4) On the US Cars, At the base of the grille Area but on the Core
> >Support, there is a car wide bracket thing from what I can tell that is
> >used for attaching part of the bumper.  Is this there on the Euro Cars?
> the bumper is attached by 3 bolts at the front of the frame rails

	I get that.  But on the Core Support on the US cars there is a
bracket where the trim attaches.  (As far as I can tell for all info
stated)  ANyhow, the filler piece that runs from top of bumper to core
support apperently attaches to this bracket.  Is this needed for a Euro
Bumper?  Would this piece be hard to put on a 4kq Core Support?  I may be
modifying a 4kq core support to BE a ur-q core.  Doesn't look to hard so
far.  Just cut of the bottom and weld on that bracket.

> don't laugh, BTDT, it worked, front and rear bumpers fit in 1 ski bag

	Just the metal part, not the cover, right?  I'm keeping US Bumpers
in back to protect me but want a Euro in front.  ANy way to put the Euro
unit over a US bumper?  Maybe cut it down a bit so it would fit so you'd
have a cross between the two for safety?

> These are expenseive when ordered new in the US, like $2k. I think
> the same valence is used all round the world...

	Phhh, yea right.  Anyone know how much I can get one in Europe for
and then ship it over.  I dont mind a used one if its in OK shape.  While
in Europe I want to pick up Newer Sloped H4/H1's, Euro Bumper, Cover, and
Fogs/turn Signals. 
	Is this unreasonable to find stuff like this used but in OK shape?
Thanks
	Todd