you know, in thinking i realize it's not 11th, it's 10th or so, on the northeast corner. tire and wheel shop, on the corner, garages face the folsom side, around the block from the north face shop. -- rocky mullin http://caliban.sf.ca.us/ two strokes are faster than four! this message was composed using the vi editor. '83 ur-q - yamaha rz350 - suzuki ts250 - chaotic good