In a message dated 99-05-07 11:40:56 EDT, you write: << As eric would say... BZZZZZZZTTTT!! I live in connecticut. No rust. And its parked outside all year. next caller please... Bob >> Well, then, sir Bob, I would start knocking on some serious wood, because I would say your entire car is about to break. :-) Carter J Kwattro@aol.com