frank sez... there are many world class motorcycle racers who would trade a testicle for proof they completed this race! isle of mann, 30-some mile course, not many concessions to safety, "weather"... surely in this world of political correctness that should be "trade testicle/ovary" :>) mike 86 5kcdtq, tap chip sjm spring 84 5ks 84 5ksw many cyclops bicycles