I know this has been discussed (I hope!) but I couldn;t figure out an easy way to find it in the archives... what was one supposed to do when trying to run etka gets you a "stamm not found" error? archive date(s) are sufficient if the explanation is lengthy. thanks. -- Huw Powell http://www.thebook.com/human-speakers 82 Audi Coupe; 84 4kq; 85 Coupe GT http://www.nh.ultranet.com/~human