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Re: An M3 ate my Q





Daniel Harman wrote:

> Although I am an Audi fanatic and I love nothing more than eating M3s for lunch,
> I have always been a BMW fan. Something often overlooked, especially with BMW,
> is that peak HP is definatley not the only important measurment. Bimmer engines
> have always been praised because of how smooth they are. If you ever look at a
> HP or lb/ft curve of a BMW it is just flat. Bimmer engines produce a lot of
> power and a lot of torque all the time. This is why with "only" 240hp, an M3 can
> get to 60 in 5.4 seconds (R&T test results.) The M3 also weighs about 3000lbs. I
> don't know to much about 5k's, but I would guess it weighs more. I have a 240hp
> A4 which weighs 3250lbs, and I can just barely keep with M3s. Every once and I
> while, a 4 door will pop up, and then it is a fair match, but even though I have
> more torque, the turbo K04 and the extra weight hold me back. Once I throw a
> downpipe and cat-back on my baby, I should have 260hp and 270+ lb/ft of torque,
> so then we will see if those M3s can touch me.
>     Also, before I get a ton of letters saying exhaust doesn't raise HP that
> much, on the A4 (restrictive stock exhaust) with a K04 (much bigger turbo) and
> concidering that this exhaust also has a downpipe, it does add that much power.
> Don't believe me, call neuspeed.
>
> Dan
> A4 1.8tQ K04
>
> "Lewis, Gary M" wrote:
>
> > Ti said;
> >
> > > Lewis, Gary M writes:
> > > > He pulls around me like I'm standing still.  By the time I hit 60 (so
> > > figure
> > > > 20 to 60)  the guy is _6_ cars ahead of me.  6 CARS AHEAD OF ME!!!!!!!
> > > And
> > > > pulling away...
> > >
> > > It's possible that he has some tweaks too...
> > >
> > I doubt it.  Still had dealer covers where the plates should have been.  Car
> > was brand new.  It isn't even listed on the BuMWiper website (that I could
> > find).
> >
> > > the stock US M3 has "only" 240 normally aspirated hp.
> > >
> > Is the new "M" euro motor here yet??  This car screamed...
> >
> > > I don't know how much power your car has but
> > > I gotta think that your car probably weighs a bit more than the M3 and
> > > the turbo needs a little time to spool up...
> > >
> > I'd guess about 225-230hp.  I'd also guess my car weighs 300-400 lbs more.
> > I have a k24.  By the time I was on it, I was at an rpm level that full
> > throttle yields full boost.  No lag.  At all.
> >
> > I sure would love to explain away what happened, but I can't.  This thing
> > flat out blew my beloved 88 5kcstq away.  Period.  Sucks...
> >
> > And the M3 guys say the M5 is fast.  Damn...
> >
> > Still Humble In Los Angeles
> >
> > Gary Lewis
> > 88 5kcstq 1.8 bar 110km Pearl w/Fuchs, K24 turbo, 2-piece EM
> > 86 5kcstqw Sapphire and Platinum, stock
> > Mergers, Acquisitions, Public Offerings
> > (818) 384-7600
> >
> > > -Ti
> > > 96 A4 2.8 quattro
> > > 84 5000S 2.1 turbo
> > > 80 4000 2.0
> > > --
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> > >