Me and my friend were driving through a residential area at about 50, when we downshifted to third, and took the turn at 50... From there, we proceeded into an all wheel drive slide! Quite an adrenaline pumper. Luckily, just before we hit a mailbox, quattro and my 17's kicked in and stuck hard. We shot out of the turn at about 60. It was great! I love quattro Jonathan Bowman 98 A4 1.8t q