nice! I DEFINITELY need to see that shot! I got up to the start line just as Frank was pulling the car around. I got 20-30 awesome close-ups of the car, Frank, and the 'blast off' before I was reprimanded! If you guys want, I can post em. Richard 87 5KCSTQ 85 4 KSQ 82 VW Cabriolet 97 Landcruiser