Re: Extinction of 200 20vt <was economics of...

["Daniel Hussey" <dan_hussey@email.msn.com>]

Did they do any body strengthening and extra support when they added the 3B
motor to the Ur-Q in europe???  I'm figureing they did and would probably
have to change some of the support structure, etc to shoehorn that motor in
that cramped engine bay.  Maybee Phil can answer this one....Phil????

Too bad we never saw Ur-Qs and coupe Quattros with the 20V motor over here.
Would have been nice to have a factory original 20V Ur-Q!  ;^)

But, I have to vote that I think it's terrible that '91's are being slain
for thier powerplant in lou of some 4000 with a 20V turbo motor, just
because the 200 is "too big"!  Uh, makes me sick.  But, if the salvage yard
owns the car, it's a free country....they can do whatever they want with it.
They can paint it Mary Kay pink if they want.  It belongs to them.  So, no
use complaining about it.  I just hope this isn't a consistnet trend, as
clean '91's are getting harder to find and I'll be looking for one myself
SOON!

BTW, I LOVE the big cars with the 3B motor!  You people have something
against a car with the structural integrity and support to offer a fast
motor AND a solid ride!?  Geez, and I REALLY want to find a '91 wagon.  They
truly are such a rare and special breed.

Later,
Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: John Cunningham <johnc@together.net>
To: Brandon Hull <brandon@cardinalventures.com>
Cc: frankbauer@thevine.net <frankbauer@thevine.net>; quattro List
<quattro@audifans.com>
Date: Friday, July 02, 1999 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: Extinction of 200 20vt <was economics of...


>consider this a vote for motor equal opportunity - good motors available to
>drivers of all persuasions.
>
>i for one, love the fine, powerful and taught ride of the big S4 hauling
down a
>twisty road... or the open highway...
>
>so i fail to understand at all the argument of 'your car is bigger so you
should
>get a slug motor instead'.  i do agree, however, that if Audi was sticking
that
>motor in the big sedan, it should/could have gone in the small cars too.
ok ok
>they did but not here anyway.  really, whose stupid idea was it to not put
the
>blower in the CQ in 90-91?.  ahh... ancient history i guess.
>
>Brandon Hull wrote:
>
>> >>That engine belongs in the UrQ in my opinion, and i guess i share
Audi's
>> >>opinion since they dropped it in the UrQ...
>>
>> >there's no mistaking what you said.
>> >we are just questioning the narrowness of your views.
>> >even when i was in your situation (young, single, childless, recently
>> >graduated)
>>
>> If only to illustrate perhaps that narrow views don't necessarily
dissipate
>> with age, marriage, kids, and 20th reunions, I'll step up to Michael's
>> defense here.
>>
>> If I understand Michael's original point, he is saying that the merits of
a
>> small, light and efficient engine like the 2.2L 20vt find (shall we say)
>> "fuller expression" in a light, nimble car than a large luxury sedan.
The
>> engine comprises a higher proportion of the weight in the smaller car, so
>> heroic power-to-weight ratios are more meaningful.  His position (as I
>> interpret) is that all that wonderful engineering content of the 20vt is
if
>> not wasted, then somewhat academic in the larger car.
>>
>> Now I am the last guy to attack over-engineering for engineering's sake,
but
>> I agree with this.  I too learned to drive in a big 'murrican wagon ('69
>> Country Squire w/390) and I think wagons oughta have V8s. The AoA people
>> once again have failed me by not selling the V8 A6 Avant, the first car
in
>> years that I'd actually consider buying new.
>>
>> But I agree with Michael here, as much as I admire the '91 200/S4/6, I
can't
>> help but experience a sense of, well, inappropriateness when I look at
the
>> engine bay.
>>
>> Of course, I thought convertibles went to the dogs when they added
roll-up
>> windows.
>>
>> Brandon Hull
>> ersatz S2
>
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