Joseph, > So any BTDTs on leaving it off and changing the > plumbing?? I took mine off and with a not so new rad I have yet to see any cooling problems. So far the highest ambient temp was 30 degrees C. HTH -- Martin Pajak http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5939 1983 Audi Ur-quattro (222,000 km) 1986 Audi 4000 S Quattro (405,000 km) with 5 bolt pattern