In message <4.1.19990821222203.00942710@traverse.com> Kneale Brownson writes: >> Or paint the Audi yellow. Adds 20BHP. > But does that make it any faster? No, the weight of the paint cancels out the extra bhp. It just _looks_ faster, especially when it's not moving. -- Phil Payne UK Audi quattro Owners Club Phone: 0385 302803 Fax: 0870 0883933