First things first: Gotta see at night! Metrix has 'em for $130 or so a piece for my 91 90q20v. I'm jumping today if someone doesn't tell me better. Bosch units, if I can remember. Now, on the 90q20v, is the wiring as cheezey as the 4kq? Ie. do I need to make a harness again? Argh. Mark Hal, open the file Hal, open the damn file, Hal open the, please Hal -- Jennifer Jo Lane