Put up on site

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Dave, welcome back:

>this is laughable.  scott, please reference the "spider bite" in the audi
>"torsen behaviour in a turn" sae paper.
>put up for once.

I'm more than willing to 'help' you understand the paper.  How bout you scan 
it, send it to jeff, and he can put it up on his torsen page, it could make 
for an interesting addition.  I totally understand your "copywrite" concerns. 
 

>the paper does make interesting reading when put against your claims that
>the torsen gets fooled by different front/rear slip angles in a turn doesn't
>it? 

Hardly.  Please make it available to the rest of the class.

> the diagrams where the audi engineers dutifully noted front and rear
>slip angles while the car is accelerating through a turn shoot that down
>pretty good....

Really?  You aren't reading it close enough, IMO.  Please post 'your' 
reference to Jeff G at oorque@aol.com for posting on his torsen site.  

>anyone else interested, sae 885140 "the influence of a torsen centre diff on
>the handling of a 4wd vehicle".  available from the sae.  interesting that
>audi published this as early as 1988 and yes, jorg bensinger is credited as
>an author (ref: pc mag article "four father" 1986).
>i'll redux it when i get some time.  anyone else more interested, get the
>paper yourselves and make up your own mind...

Make it available, or let's drop it.  I'm very happy to discuss especially 
that particular "white" paper in depth to resolve the idea of the spider in 
print.  However, given it's complexity, it would only be fair if *YOU* 
presented your reference material to the rest of the list.

I totally understand the attempted blindside.

Scott Justusson