Re: 5Ktq Clutch bleeding

[Gisli Ottarsson <gisli@master.adams.com>]

I should not be offering my advice, considering that I am pleading for
clutch related assistence re. a slipping clutch in another thread.
However, I have recently succeeded in bleeding this clutch and can
offer some of my experience.

I replaced both master and slave (as well as the guts of the clutch
itself).  I found that the master would sort of bleed itself because
of how it is angled and the fact that the reservour sits directly on
top of it.  I pumped the clutch several time to convince myself that
the air in the master was mostly gone.

I got rid of the air in the slave by hooking a vacuum pump with a jar
attachment up to the bleeder valve on the slave.  This vac is a
must-own which I have seen for cheap at Murray's or Meijers.  (I only
wish its gauge would measure pressure as well as vacuum).

Here is what this setup looks like:


                        |^^^^^^^^^^^^^|
 valve                  |             |
  o =========================|    ================== -> To vacuum pump
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                        |             |
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I don't think you can bleed this clutch without this tool, or
something similar.

After bleeding out the air, I had to pump the pedal for a while to get
it to generate pressure and then I bled the valve again for good
measure.  Now the pedal engages the clutch very high (too high as it
turns out :-(, but that's a different problem.)

Hope this helps.

   Gisli

>>>>> On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 08:55:03 EDT, you said:
 
  JH> Well, last night was a good night.  After almost a year a half
  JH> my 5Ktq is running again after completing a clutch job plus some
  JH> other stuff.  That job took me WAY to long, totally my fault.
  JH> Well, my question is, I cant seem to get a good clutch pedal.  I
  JH> replaced the clutch slave cylinder so I need to bleed the
  JH> system.  My brother and I must have gone through 2-3 pints of
  JH> fluid and there is still in not much of a pedal.  I was suprised
  JH> that after I gave up trying to bleed it that when I got the car
  JH> started the clutch did work but at the very bottom of the
  JH> stroke.  Do I need to keep bleeding, there was still some air
  JH> coming out, or do you think after such a long time sitting did
  JH> the seals go in the clutch MC.  I find the latter a little hard
  JH> to believe since I do have somewhat of a clutch.  Any BTDT's
  JH> would be greatly appreciated.

  JH> Cheers,
  JH> Jim Hahn