Taka, and the list. I regularly service an 85 or 86 5 sp 5k fwd, and have for 10 years. I've got a standing offer on it, but, so far, they won't sell. I also have a customer with an 87 5KQ, no turbo. I've seen a few other fwd 5 speeds, and know of at least a couple more 5KQs from that era. They're out there. John