In a message dated 99-11-26 08:48:11 EST, you write: << From what i remember, the s8 beats them all. Bob >> Nah, the S8 isn't as fast, and doesn't have the same roadhandling. Close, but no cigar. The S8 is already 1/2 a second behind at 60. The only audi that could compete? Maybe the Sport Quattro, maybe the RS2. Later! Carter J Kwattro@aol.com