> << On a car the weight of a 5ktq, a 205/60 might not even be out of line > depending on the local conditions. >> > > > they come stock w/ 205-60-15. > Yes, I am aware of that. What I was saying is that it is not nessesary to downsize as far as 185 or 175 for winters on a type 44, and that in many places even the oem 205 size would work fine in winter. Erik