> I'm sorry you are so imagination deprived, Huw. :-) But that's OK. I'm > tired. Nap time calls. It doesn't matter that much to me. I don't want > or need another torsen thread. You win. nah, I'm tired too. I'm gonna try for real tomorrow (which one should I do first, hmmm?). But for now, you have to win... -- Huw Powell