Gerry, > Their A/R bar was really for the 4000, I think. 4000q rear suspension is the same as 1983.5 and up Ur-q (minus the shock/spring rates and the higher hat/hubs for wider track). HTH -- Martin Pajak http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5939 1983 Audi Ur-quattro (229,000 km) 1986 Audi 4000 S Quattro (418,000 km) with 5 bolt pattern