> Couple of times tried out the quattro by accelerating > fast in snow/ice and the thing just launches!!!! :-) > Felt so safe. Don't forget physics. Physics won't forget you. When it comes to braking - 0 x 4 = 0 x 2. -- Phil Payne UK Audi quattro Owners Club Phone +44 7785 302803 Fax +44 870 0883933